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when it comes to that story snowden is no longer in control the journalists are in their promising more revelations edward snowden is not guiding the stories he handed over a certain number of documents needed to other reporters six months ago and he told us the hope that we would use around dutchman has not tried and would not succeed in telling us what to publish when not hopeless and dom in a week ago for one of the top of dough instead. in washington dc sent stocks artsy. believe it or not here now at the end of twenty thirteen it's been a monumental year to say the least. this year we saw huge advancements in the play for same marriage in the aftermath of the chemical gas attack with sa president obama in a us strike on syria most recently was on the death of former south african president and international icon nelson mandela. well it's important to reflect on the events that have defined it this past year in history. it's equally important to look forward so that i pull out what we can expect next year and twenty fourteen are cheese on the stasi a church and sat down with gerald
when it comes to that story snowden is no longer in control the journalists are in their promising more revelations edward snowden is not guiding the stories he handed over a certain number of documents needed to other reporters six months ago and he told us the hope that we would use around dutchman has not tried and would not succeed in telling us what to publish when not hopeless and dom in a week ago for one of the top of dough instead. in washington dc sent stocks artsy. believe it or not...
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return home the york times runs a bullet point several of the nsa violations as revealed by edward snowden including the hacking of data links to a duel and yahoo the efforts to undermine encryption and proof that the director of national intelligence james clap or lied to congress last march when he said the nsa was not collecting data on americans then out to iraq which is just coming off its deadliest year since two thousand and eight. according to the united nations mission to baghdad seven thousand eight hundred and eighteen civilians were killed in sectarian violence this year alone in iraq. at any iraqi security forces deaths in the toll rises more than the eight hundred. the war the country officially ended in two thousand eleven the violence continues in peace is part five. iraq is the lasting legacy of us intervention in the middle east which might explain the results of a new global poll conducted over sixty five countries around the world. at the end of twenty thirty. that poll done by the worldwide independent network and doll up fast people. which country do you think is the
return home the york times runs a bullet point several of the nsa violations as revealed by edward snowden including the hacking of data links to a duel and yahoo the efforts to undermine encryption and proof that the director of national intelligence james clap or lied to congress last march when he said the nsa was not collecting data on americans then out to iraq which is just coming off its deadliest year since two thousand and eight. according to the united nations mission to baghdad seven...
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who was edward snowden? >> he never graduated from high school. >> high school dropout. >> a 29-year-old kid just throwing open the safe. >> oftentimes when the media are attacked by politicians or their officials, journalists say, don't shoot the messengers. >> this was a gift to them by edward snowden and the guardian. and you could see before the snowden leaks, how much did they spend looking into what nsa was doing? they did almost nothing. so it's an age old mainstream media anger that somebody else is getting a story they should have gotten earlier. >> why shouldn't you mr. greenwald be charged with a crime? >> he adopted the language of a politician that was unhelpful. >> i think it's extraordinary that anybody who would call themselves a journalist, would milkily muse whether someone else. >> he was given materials he reported the materials he investigated the materials he put them out there. he is not aiding and abetting any kind of violation of the espionage act. >> what do you think of edward snow
who was edward snowden? >> he never graduated from high school. >> high school dropout. >> a 29-year-old kid just throwing open the safe. >> oftentimes when the media are attacked by politicians or their officials, journalists say, don't shoot the messengers. >> this was a gift to them by edward snowden and the guardian. and you could see before the snowden leaks, how much did they spend looking into what nsa was doing? they did almost nothing. so it's an age old...
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whistleblower edward snowden. earlier this morning and marie slaughter used to work as the state department's director of policy planning said on twitter that she agrees with the new york times. slaughter was of course referencing a new york times editorial board opinion piece published on wednesday that called on the obama administration to either pardon snowden or offer him a plea bargain at a tauriel argued that because of the enormous value of the information he has revealed in the abuses he has exposed mr snowden deserves better than a life of permanent exile fear and flight it is time for the united states to offer mr snowden a plea bargain or some form of clemency that would allow him to return home that's an editorial also said that in respect in retrospect mr snowden was clearly justified in believing that the only way to blow the whistle on this kind of intelligence gathering was to expose it to the public and let the resulting fear or do the work is superiors would not. a similar editorial published in
whistleblower edward snowden. earlier this morning and marie slaughter used to work as the state department's director of policy planning said on twitter that she agrees with the new york times. slaughter was of course referencing a new york times editorial board opinion piece published on wednesday that called on the obama administration to either pardon snowden or offer him a plea bargain at a tauriel argued that because of the enormous value of the information he has revealed in the abuses...
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-- >> people in the country should be. >> clemency for snowden and you will get more snowdens. >> is it in president obama's character to reverse cause under pressure? >> you know, reverse course, i don't know that he has said absolutely, he hasn't closed the door, and you know, i think he has said that snowden broke the law and should come back and face charges. he can come back and face charges. >> what more do you want, you said he broke the law. >> and then you can have -- again, plea bargains go on every day in courtrooms. >> it is absolutely in president obama's political nature to change course as it is with most politicians and that's a big problem with our government right now as it was with the bush administration before. obama already changed course. he came out in california when this story was blowing up and basically said we're not doing this and then the leaks come out and he's going to put a panel together to investigate how deep it was. >> who has stuck his or her neck out in defending the behavior of the nsa in trying to get control of this. dianne feinstein. >> the
-- >> people in the country should be. >> clemency for snowden and you will get more snowdens. >> is it in president obama's character to reverse cause under pressure? >> you know, reverse course, i don't know that he has said absolutely, he hasn't closed the door, and you know, i think he has said that snowden broke the law and should come back and face charges. he can come back and face charges. >> what more do you want, you said he broke the law. >> and...
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snowden has temporary asylum in russia. he's charged with espionage and felony theft of government property. u.s. officials have urged him to return and face the charges. >>> 14 people were rushed to the hospital after an apartment building in downtown minneapolis caught fire from an explosion. firefighters did the best they could to control the 20 foot flames but were eventually forced to foul back. fire officials say the building became unsafe and firefighters had to battle that blaze from the outside with hoses. they also had to deal with freezing temperatures and windchills near minus 20 degrees. residents of the second and third floor apartments were either rescued with ladders or they actually had to jump from windows. six of the 14 people taken to the hospital are in critical condition. the cause of the fire, well, that's still being investigated. >>> james avery best known as the father and uncle phil to will smith's character on the hit sitcom fresh prince of bellaire as died from complications of open heart surger
snowden has temporary asylum in russia. he's charged with espionage and felony theft of government property. u.s. officials have urged him to return and face the charges. >>> 14 people were rushed to the hospital after an apartment building in downtown minneapolis caught fire from an explosion. firefighters did the best they could to control the 20 foot flames but were eventually forced to foul back. fire officials say the building became unsafe and firefighters had to battle that...
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political commentator sam sachs takes a look back on the year of snowden. june fifth a bombshell report the guardian's glenn greenwald has secret documents revealing how the n.s.a. is collecting the phone records of millions of arising customers two days later june seventh the washington post barton gellman working with filmmaker lawyer portress follows up with a no other huge story three top secret program known as prism the n.s.a. is also digging into the internet data repast tori's at major tech companies the n.s.a. is surveilling both our telephone and internet communications on a scale unimaginable before this directly contradicts a claim made months earlier under oath by the director of national intelligence james clapper does the n.s.a. collect any type of data at all and millions or hundreds of millions of americans. no sir two days later on june ninth a former n.s.a. contractor edward snowden comes forward as the source of the recent n.s.a. stories he's left the united states and is in hong kong he says he's a whistleblower and he's handed over his
political commentator sam sachs takes a look back on the year of snowden. june fifth a bombshell report the guardian's glenn greenwald has secret documents revealing how the n.s.a. is collecting the phone records of millions of arising customers two days later june seventh the washington post barton gellman working with filmmaker lawyer portress follows up with a no other huge story three top secret program known as prism the n.s.a. is also digging into the internet data repast tori's at major...
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kaiser happy happy new year time to say goodbye to twenty thirteen and what a year it was bitcoin and snowden digital bombshells which in twenty fourteen could take down the twin towers of oligarch and banks are imposing a corrupt and inefficient political financial economic system upon us all on the negative side of twenty thirteen ledger it was a great year for a club to kratz banking psychopaths and monetary maniacs for weapons dealers peeping toms and drone operators yes for it was the year these whack jobs introduced the bell in help to buy debt debt and more debt the never ending list of fines for crimes to which j.p. morgan will never have to admit. obamacare the corporate espionage surveillance state the bedroom tax the housing bubble the speculative market frenzy taper talk taper and the murder of aaron swartz so there's a twenty fourteen being a year and what's justice perhaps is done stacey well we can only hope and i think we said that bitcoin and snowden i think those could be the digital boncelles that were laid which could deliver some justice now the first headline is a tweet
kaiser happy happy new year time to say goodbye to twenty thirteen and what a year it was bitcoin and snowden digital bombshells which in twenty fourteen could take down the twin towers of oligarch and banks are imposing a corrupt and inefficient political financial economic system upon us all on the negative side of twenty thirteen ledger it was a great year for a club to kratz banking psychopaths and monetary maniacs for weapons dealers peeping toms and drone operators yes for it was the year...
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what snowden has unleashed upon the world the tweet reads silicon valley's losses from its n.s.a. collusion could be as high as one hundred an eighty billion dollars or twenty five percent hit to overall revenues so tech represents twenty percent of the s. and p. five hundred and it has been hit by a financial jihadi group called the n.s.a. this is done more damage to the financial markets in the united states then anything osama bin ladin or whoever did nine eleven could have done right the chance of getting a dime from a terrorist attack in the u.s. is slimmer than the number of people who die from get hit by a television sets so based on the proportion that ratio the n.s.a. a government agency decided to destroy the. twenty percent of the s. and p. five hundred at least and there's contingencies to that by infecting all their products with a disease that is surveillance technology and so americans blowing its own head off you don't need the crazy people's yachties when you have their own country taking a big gun to their own head and pulling the trigger you don't need to arest
what snowden has unleashed upon the world the tweet reads silicon valley's losses from its n.s.a. collusion could be as high as one hundred an eighty billion dollars or twenty five percent hit to overall revenues so tech represents twenty percent of the s. and p. five hundred and it has been hit by a financial jihadi group called the n.s.a. this is done more damage to the financial markets in the united states then anything osama bin ladin or whoever did nine eleven could have done right the...
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we could have kidnapped snowden in hong kong and brought him home. he should be brought home either openly or covertly so that he can be tried, convicted command executed as a trader. >> two groups in five administrations. the bureaucrats who don't want to see an agency going dn like this, and the other, let's keep in min but then the camp of the obama campaign, those who want to criticize the ageies in bringing down. the result is will we see right now. lou: thank you both, gentlemen. >> thank you very much. lou: check out my new book. winng back the country with knowledge that empowers, ideas that matter, and solutionshat work. debuts january 7th b is available online now for pre orders. please avail yourselves. up next, new york mayor inauguration playing out like a roast of outgoing mayor michael bloomberg. the billionaire was visibly unhappy and appropriately so. i don't oftengree with the former mayor. the "a-team" up next. ♪ [ male announr ] this is the story of the lile room over the pizzplace at 315 cnut street. the modest first floor bedr
we could have kidnapped snowden in hong kong and brought him home. he should be brought home either openly or covertly so that he can be tried, convicted command executed as a trader. >> two groups in five administrations. the bureaucrats who don't want to see an agency going dn like this, and the other, let's keep in min but then the camp of the obama campaign, those who want to criticize the ageies in bringing down. the result is will we see right now. lou: thank you both, gentlemen....
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contractor edward snowden comes forward as the source of the recent n.s.a. stories he's left the united states and is in hong kong he says he's a whistleblower and he's handed over his trove of evidence to journalists and the public needs to decide whether these programs and policies are right or wrong snowden is later forced to hide out in russia as over the next six months the world's newspapers begin publishing the n.s.a.'s angy c.-h. cues most closely guarded secrets dragnet surveillance on entire foreign populations targeted surveillance on diplomats and world leaders including key allies the black budget of the u.s. intelligence agencies the deliberate tapping of undersea fiber optic cables a commitment to breaking in corruption standards we also learned that the n.s.a. has secretly hacked into google and yahoo is data links barton gellman calls this the most explosive story and it's a was breaking into the data links the private owned the links between for example to google data centers this one in finland and one in hong kong and there intercepting t
contractor edward snowden comes forward as the source of the recent n.s.a. stories he's left the united states and is in hong kong he says he's a whistleblower and he's handed over his trove of evidence to journalists and the public needs to decide whether these programs and policies are right or wrong snowden is later forced to hide out in russia as over the next six months the world's newspapers begin publishing the n.s.a.'s angy c.-h. cues most closely guarded secrets dragnet surveillance on...
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snowden has helped with that. you made the point in britain, it has helped -- been hard to get in much of the debate. i thought after many of the revelations about the u.s. the beldingn in stood cyber weapons, there would be a kind of debate in the u.s. about cyber weapons that there was about drones. but that has taken longer to generate. these things are hard to predict. the journalof how handles cybersecurity, i becaused that evolution i came to the journal in 2007 and had been covering nsa quite a bit when i was at the baltimore sun. i had just done a larger story on this effort we later learned was the comprehensive national cyber security initiative. i spent a year trying to get our editors to care at all saying, who is being hurt and doesn't involve people? - does it involve people? find me the company. this is 2008. in 2009, we were able to shake loose a few stories that got our editors attention. they work one over. we did too good of a job. covere sudden, and i intelligence. it is not the whole thing. i
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snowden did what he did. he knew there was no way inside the system to make fellow citizens aware of what their government was doing to their privacy. >> ruth, it is true the obama administration has used the espionage act more to go after whistleblowers who leaked to journalists not just than any previous administration but more than all previous administrations combined. so the argument that ellsburg makes that it's a different environment than the '70s might be accurate, no? >> i think there has been an excessive use of the whistleblower -- excessive use of power against whistleblowers. i also think because i see the world -- glenn sees the world in black and white, i see it in gray terms which makes me apparently a complete tool of the establishment. i think that snowden has done a public service so when i look at this, i really balance the equities of how much he disclosed. i thought josh's point that you raised is a very good point. perhaps if he had just told us only about the metadata program, perhaps
snowden did what he did. he knew there was no way inside the system to make fellow citizens aware of what their government was doing to their privacy. >> ruth, it is true the obama administration has used the espionage act more to go after whistleblowers who leaked to journalists not just than any previous administration but more than all previous administrations combined. so the argument that ellsburg makes that it's a different environment than the '70s might be accurate, no? >> i...
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first the guardian's editorial board on wednesday made a case for a pardon of edward snowden arguing mr snowden through journalists in the absence of meaningful reliable democratic oversight have given people enough knowledge about the nature of modern intelligence gathering to allow an informed debate then on the other side of the atlantic on the same day on new years the new york times also praised snowden calling him a whistleblower and saying when someone reveals that government officials have routinely and deliberately broken the law that person should not face life in prison at the hands of the same government president obama should tell his aides to begin finding a way to end mr snowden's vilification and give him an incentive to return home. the new york times went on to bullet point several of the n.s.a. violations as revealed by edward snowden including the hacking of data links that google and yahoo the efforts to undermine encrypt and proof that the director of national intelligence james clapper lied to congress last march when he said the n.s.a. was not collecting data
first the guardian's editorial board on wednesday made a case for a pardon of edward snowden arguing mr snowden through journalists in the absence of meaningful reliable democratic oversight have given people enough knowledge about the nature of modern intelligence gathering to allow an informed debate then on the other side of the atlantic on the same day on new years the new york times also praised snowden calling him a whistleblower and saying when someone reveals that government officials...
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was snowden is reviewing -- revealing is the limit. he is revealing how we acquired this information. it will take years, if not decades, for us to return to the position that we had prior to his disclosure. >> glenn greenwald, i want you to respond to that and also the snowdenequest by edward to get asylum in the country where you now live, in brazil, and the significance of the debate -- police reported by "the new york times" that is going on within the intelligence community and the white house about whether edward snowden should possibly be granted amnesty. >> first of all, michael hayden in that clip just told outright lies, as he so often does. anyone who has any doubts should read the letter that edward snowden wrote to the people of brazil as well as the people of germany, and compared to what michael hayden lied and said he actually did. he never offered to give documents in exchange for asylum or anything like that. he did the opposite. he has repeatedly been pursued by officials of both countries asking him to participate i
was snowden is reviewing -- revealing is the limit. he is revealing how we acquired this information. it will take years, if not decades, for us to return to the position that we had prior to his disclosure. >> glenn greenwald, i want you to respond to that and also the snowdenequest by edward to get asylum in the country where you now live, in brazil, and the significance of the debate -- police reported by "the new york times" that is going on within the intelligence community...
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snowden's vilification and give him incentive to return home. i want to bring in our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin with presidential historian and reagan biographer. the times says snowden has done a great service to the country. do you disagree with that? >> i do disagree with that. look, i'm not going to pretend that this hasn't been a healthy conversation for the country, it has been. but edward snowden went about it the wrong way. he broke the law. dramatically. ex-traffic gently. g flagrantly broke the law. instead of doing the right thing, going to congress, going to the inspector general, he fled to china, hong kong, then russia. two countries where freedom of speech is nonexistent compared to the united states. and i don't think that's something that deserves celebration. i think it deserves prosecution. should there be a plea bargain, that's fine with me, i don't think he needs to spend decades in prison but when you break the law like this, you deserve to pay a price. >> craig you agree with the times and disagree with jeffrey. h
snowden's vilification and give him incentive to return home. i want to bring in our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin with presidential historian and reagan biographer. the times says snowden has done a great service to the country. do you disagree with that? >> i do disagree with that. look, i'm not going to pretend that this hasn't been a healthy conversation for the country, it has been. but edward snowden went about it the wrong way. he broke the law. dramatically. ex-traffic...
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i had top level security chlorrance and snowden did as well. when you take that oath, you understand that it is people and american's lives and foreign assets are at risk when you release information. you can't know the consequences of what you do. and you have to prosecute snowden fully for what he's done because he put lives at risk. >> all of us might agree that snowden is no hero in terms of what he has done, but while he's no hero, he did commit a crime. he's done a great service to all of us by illuminating the trampling of every right of the americans in being spied on and that is clearly unconstitutional. >> great to have you here and terrific conversation with you. emily and ebonnie thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> (applause) >>> why is this man wearing nothing but a pink tu- tu in the middle of the new york times square. he is doing all of this for a good cause. you wonder what it is. you will meet him and hear his remarkab al-qaeda's efforts to concert pour in iraq. now huckabee. (applause) >>> well, i want to wish a happy birt
i had top level security chlorrance and snowden did as well. when you take that oath, you understand that it is people and american's lives and foreign assets are at risk when you release information. you can't know the consequences of what you do. and you have to prosecute snowden fully for what he's done because he put lives at risk. >> all of us might agree that snowden is no hero in terms of what he has done, but while he's no hero, he did commit a crime. he's done a great service to...
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others say snowden deserves clemency or a pardon. joining us now is a harvard law professor who called back in november for snowden to be given amnesty. joining us also goldie taylor. professor, i want to start with you on two pieces of that. one, the relevance and importance of mr. clapper's testimony and whether that is a crime or should be pursued as such. and two, whether the fact that at least one federal court has now suggested that the revelations that edward snowden provided us show illegal government conduct. does that change the way we should look at snowden? >> i think both of these things are really important. the first, clapper's testimony. there's no question it was an untrue statement. he even admitted it later on. it teaches how imperfect our limited the post watergate system of congressional oversight is. in order to preserve the secrets of national security, what we have is an incredibly weak oversight system. for years, it allowed the nsa to build a program as we look at it now seems excessive, intuiti unconstituti
others say snowden deserves clemency or a pardon. joining us now is a harvard law professor who called back in november for snowden to be given amnesty. joining us also goldie taylor. professor, i want to start with you on two pieces of that. one, the relevance and importance of mr. clapper's testimony and whether that is a crime or should be pursued as such. and two, whether the fact that at least one federal court has now suggested that the revelations that edward snowden provided us show...
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this is not the first talk of amnesty for snowden. senior nsa official rick le jet raised the possibility last month during an interview with "60 minutes." in some circles it's already gaining traction. >> you already have some members of congress coming out in favor of a little bit of leniency, not a full pardon, but trying to work out a way for snowden to come home. >> reporter: two federal judges say the massive collection of phone records was likely unconstitutional but another judge said it was legal. the "times" charges that they deliberately broke the law, a view not shared by president obama. >> i think there's an english word that describes selling american secrets to another government, and i do think it's treason. now the government is calling for a full pardon for snowden. the "times" isn't saying he shouldn't be charged at all. they want him to get a reduced penalty. >> thank you, susan. >>> coming up, a bit of controversy. an undocumented california man is claiming victory by the state's highest court. this is the "cbs m
this is not the first talk of amnesty for snowden. senior nsa official rick le jet raised the possibility last month during an interview with "60 minutes." in some circles it's already gaining traction. >> you already have some members of congress coming out in favor of a little bit of leniency, not a full pardon, but trying to work out a way for snowden to come home. >> reporter: two federal judges say the massive collection of phone records was likely unconstitutional...
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was and your we have thirty seconds what do you make of the new york times calling for both snowden and chelsea manning's kind of pardons well i don't think the new york times has gone as far as to call for a pardon for kelsey manning which is kind of sad seeing as how even as recently as last month mainstream established media have been citing diplomatic cables and and war logs released by private manning those information are still newsworthy and still use on a regular basis and if you're going to ask for clemency for snowden i don't see why you should also ask for manning all right archie web producer andrew blake and political commentator sam sachs thanks for working as. well new york stop and frisk program had a number of road blocks this past year part of the high profile trial over the legality of the practice and then with allegations of abuse by individual officers but with the end of michael bloomberg his reign as mayor and the beginning of bill de blasio is where does the future of the something for us program stand for more we turn now to our to correspondent honest enou
was and your we have thirty seconds what do you make of the new york times calling for both snowden and chelsea manning's kind of pardons well i don't think the new york times has gone as far as to call for a pardon for kelsey manning which is kind of sad seeing as how even as recently as last month mainstream established media have been citing diplomatic cables and and war logs released by private manning those information are still newsworthy and still use on a regular basis and if you're...
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edward snowden is a whistleblower or traitor? >> well, i don't like to get into the use of terminology, this or that or particularly inflammatory language. i think two things are clear. the first is that it has been overreaching on the part of our security agencies, technology outran reasoned judgment, in my view, and i think there will be corrections made. that won't be the first time in the history that has occurred and i think it will be a valuable thing. the second thing that is clear is that edward snowden broke the law, and so while there clearly have been benefits, i think there also has to be accountability and the phrase that they use and that you put out well should be clemency and plea bargain. those are two different things. >> i guess if you feel like the nsa has overstepped its bounds a little bit, you know, a lot of people who have that same viewpoint are now suggesting that maybe he should deserve some kind of leniency or something in exchange for his return back to the united states. you think that's reasonable?
edward snowden is a whistleblower or traitor? >> well, i don't like to get into the use of terminology, this or that or particularly inflammatory language. i think two things are clear. the first is that it has been overreaching on the part of our security agencies, technology outran reasoned judgment, in my view, and i think there will be corrections made. that won't be the first time in the history that has occurred and i think it will be a valuable thing. the second thing that is clear...
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new york times edward snowden had to get a little bit of a relief, he is a hero, not a criminal, that he's just a whistleblower. ebony, your thoughts? >> i believe that the nsa stuff is unconstitutional, i believe it is overly broad and violates the fourth amendment but i think edward snowden has to be responsible for the way he went about his disclosures. and when you have to assess the fact that he knew beforehand what the consequences would be, he had to be prepared for those. i do think the government should entertain the notion of plea bargain but i don't think they are bound to. >> and you make have a different perspective, emily, on dealing with edward snowden. >> i had top level security clearance and snowden did as well and when you take that oath you understand that if other americans lives or our foreign assets are at risk when you release information, you can't know the consequences of what you do and that is what we have to -- why we have to prosecute snowden fully for what he's done because he put lives at risk. >> and i think we all agree snowden is no hero in terms of
new york times edward snowden had to get a little bit of a relief, he is a hero, not a criminal, that he's just a whistleblower. ebony, your thoughts? >> i believe that the nsa stuff is unconstitutional, i believe it is overly broad and violates the fourth amendment but i think edward snowden has to be responsible for the way he went about his disclosures. and when you have to assess the fact that he knew beforehand what the consequences would be, he had to be prepared for those. i do...
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. >>> a major push for clemency for nsa leaker, edward snowden. "the new york times" editorial board saying enormous value lies in the information snowden has revealed and the abuses he has exposed. they write quote mr. snowden deserves better than a life of permanent exile, fear and flight. he may have committed a crime to do so, but he has done his country a great service. it is time for the united states to offer mr. snowden a plea bargain or some form of clemency that would allow him to return home. the "times" goes on to say snowden should have the hope to lead a life of advocating for greater privacy and intelligence oversight. snowden has temporary asylum in russia, he's charged with espionage and felony theft of government property involving close to two million government documents, u.s. officials have urged him to return and face those charges. >>> >>> 14 people were rushed to the hospital wednesday an after apartment building in downtown minneapolis caught fire after an explosion. minneapolis firefighters did the best they could to cont
. >>> a major push for clemency for nsa leaker, edward snowden. "the new york times" editorial board saying enormous value lies in the information snowden has revealed and the abuses he has exposed. they write quote mr. snowden deserves better than a life of permanent exile, fear and flight. he may have committed a crime to do so, but he has done his country a great service. it is time for the united states to offer mr. snowden a plea bargain or some form of clemency that...
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to grant edward snowden clemency. the papers' editorial boards are calling him a whistle blower and courageous. snow den admits leaking details of how nsa collects data on phone calls and e-mails on millions of americans. it's explained why clemency for snowden is such a hot button issue. >> it engenders a lot of sharp opinion on both sides of this question, whether or not is he a traitor as some people in congress have called him or some people -- some of his supporters, some of his journalist supporter says he is a hero. he himself told the "washington post" recently that he felt his mission was accomplished already, but, you know, the question of whether or not the government can try to, you know, give him some kind of clemency, that's a very complicated thing. for instance, snowden has allegedly took hundreds of thousands of documents, but he no longer controls most of those documents, according to the journalists that he has been working with. i asked attorney general eric holder this question a couple of weeks a
to grant edward snowden clemency. the papers' editorial boards are calling him a whistle blower and courageous. snow den admits leaking details of how nsa collects data on phone calls and e-mails on millions of americans. it's explained why clemency for snowden is such a hot button issue. >> it engenders a lot of sharp opinion on both sides of this question, whether or not is he a traitor as some people in congress have called him or some people -- some of his supporters, some of his...
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the paper insists that snowden has done a great service to the country and, quote, it is time for the united states to offer mr. snowden a plea bargain for a form of clemency that would allow him to return home and face punishment in light of his role as a whistle-blower. i hate the phrase whistle-blower. while the former chief says it is outrageous and in a bad way. it was not that's outrageous! it is, that's outrageous. clarify. peter king is all for it. >> as far as i'm concern i had edward snowden is a traitor or a defector or both and the new york times are an accomplice. they really made themselves a blame america first rag as far as i'm concerned. >> may have had that wrong. hard to say. for more let's go live to shower kitty. >> joanne was mimicking what she does in the shower which i don't know. no, you are not going to do it for us, are you? you are still miss usa, aren't you? >> for like three weeks. >> after that you will be doing that. probably in germany surrounded by a large group of angry, crazed astronauts who are doing an educational film for children. >> will, is sn
the paper insists that snowden has done a great service to the country and, quote, it is time for the united states to offer mr. snowden a plea bargain for a form of clemency that would allow him to return home and face punishment in light of his role as a whistle-blower. i hate the phrase whistle-blower. while the former chief says it is outrageous and in a bad way. it was not that's outrageous! it is, that's outrageous. clarify. peter king is all for it. >> as far as i'm concern i had...
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not it's not economic warfare the difficulties of us is that said trees in the milky way of an andrew snowden that believers document very recent documents and very precise very accurate information so it means that we do have troops that established the bats as spying program and all the countries which are involved because the other target of such investigation so that is very difficult for the governor and u s government to add two to be incredible to be yet to be sure to be understood because the only thing is that day the obama administration decided to negotiate to explain the situation. each one stands on the twenty eight european countries he said ok maybe he's your florist to explain that at present it to individually country by country yet because to say ok we do have something to negotiate we wanna puke saying that situation is not the same with the french people which are sometimes described as an american in me that's not the point that sometimes in the political speech political debates they are presented like that and the fact that the united kingdom. all in attendance when the
not it's not economic warfare the difficulties of us is that said trees in the milky way of an andrew snowden that believers document very recent documents and very precise very accurate information so it means that we do have troops that established the bats as spying program and all the countries which are involved because the other target of such investigation so that is very difficult for the governor and u s government to add two to be incredible to be yet to be sure to be understood...
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he was raising the possibility, which his boss immediately shot down, that snowden might be offered a deal so that you could recover what it is that he has stolen. i'm not sure at this point it's recoverable, we don't know where all the copies of it are. what i find interesting, inside the white house, there is absolutely no appetite for this at all. their view is, snowden broke the law, broke his own agreement and there will be no deal. >> schieffer: do you think, john, that the president will though call for the national security agency to be reined in in some way? >> he will. at the end of the year, the balance has been struck and i'm confident there's been no abuses. but -- then he said because of the snowden releases and people's worries about this, reforms need to be put in place some are being considered, having all of this metadata, phone numbers, tracking be held by third party not by the government. the other is having some kind of advocate so if all of that information is in a box somewhere with a key that you have a tougher process for getting the key to get in to the box.
he was raising the possibility, which his boss immediately shot down, that snowden might be offered a deal so that you could recover what it is that he has stolen. i'm not sure at this point it's recoverable, we don't know where all the copies of it are. what i find interesting, inside the white house, there is absolutely no appetite for this at all. their view is, snowden broke the law, broke his own agreement and there will be no deal. >> schieffer: do you think, john, that the...
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dwawrn edward snowden gets a plea deal. and sex abuse for priests is out of jail. and the lord of the piracy rings. check the most illegally downloaded entertainment of 2013. hello o&m sheila macvicar sitting in for antonio mora. looming deadline for yet another u.s. brokered deal to resolve the conflict twin israelis and palestinians. secretary of state john kerry is in israeli to meet prime minister benjamin netanyahu. secretary of state kerry says he hoapped thhoped to use the meetn agreed framework. >> an agreed framework would be a significant break through. it would address all of the core issues we have been addressing since day 1 including borders, security, refugees, jerusalem, neutral recognition and the end of conflict and of all claims. >> but after president boost -- abbas celebrated the return of palestinian prisoners, committed to peace? >> a few days alert in ramallah, president abbas, to glory the murders of innocent women and men as zeros is an outrage. >> joining me from washington, d.c, ambassador thomas pickering pickering, a veteran diplomat.
dwawrn edward snowden gets a plea deal. and sex abuse for priests is out of jail. and the lord of the piracy rings. check the most illegally downloaded entertainment of 2013. hello o&m sheila macvicar sitting in for antonio mora. looming deadline for yet another u.s. brokered deal to resolve the conflict twin israelis and palestinians. secretary of state john kerry is in israeli to meet prime minister benjamin netanyahu. secretary of state kerry says he hoapped thhoped to use the meetn...
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you recently wrote an article on the nsa and edward snowden. and of course, the question, to spy or not to spy. ellis, it's a question that not even the federal judiciary can answer. i want your take on what you make of the recent rulings, and also, what do you have to say about snowden declaring he's been victorious here? >> well, boy, we sure will not be getting any guidance yet from the federal courts, right? one judge says the program is almost clearly unconstitutional. the other judge says, eh, looks pretty good to me. i don't see much of a problem here. inevitably, this thing does have to get resolved by the u.s. supreme court, and that's going to take a while, so we're going to be in this limbo period, and everybody can look at it and spout off, including, including edward snowden, right, who's now declaring himself victorious. >> right, and did he actually accomplish anything? >> well, you know, listen, i think it's pretty hard to defend all his methods. i do not want, and i don't think most americans want just, you know, your average n
you recently wrote an article on the nsa and edward snowden. and of course, the question, to spy or not to spy. ellis, it's a question that not even the federal judiciary can answer. i want your take on what you make of the recent rulings, and also, what do you have to say about snowden declaring he's been victorious here? >> well, boy, we sure will not be getting any guidance yet from the federal courts, right? one judge says the program is almost clearly unconstitutional. the other...
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why shouldn't snowden face charges? didn't he take classified information and make a decision on his own how to publicize that info? >> well, i think that "the new york times" makes the case very powerfully, and i urge your viewers to go to "the new york times" and see it. i think it boils down to the following. the disclosure that is mr. snowden is responsible for vastly improved a much, much needed public debate, both in the united states and around the world. the claims that they caused damage are hugely overblown. he had no alternative but to do it in the way that he did, because the people who were responsible for oversight of these programs already knew about what he reported and hadn't done anything about it. and the law, under which he would be prosecuted if he were to return to the united states, would not allow him to make a public interest defense, would not allow him to say what i just said, that these disclosures were valuable, they didn't cause harm. in fact, they revealed programs that will be found uncon
why shouldn't snowden face charges? didn't he take classified information and make a decision on his own how to publicize that info? >> well, i think that "the new york times" makes the case very powerfully, and i urge your viewers to go to "the new york times" and see it. i think it boils down to the following. the disclosure that is mr. snowden is responsible for vastly improved a much, much needed public debate, both in the united states and around the world. the...
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edward snowden shouldn't get clemency. he shouldn't because he went into a job intending to steal secrets. he promised, he signed a contract to keep those secrets. instead he stole them. he revealed them. after he did that or before he did that, he left the country instead of like i said sticking around to face the music. unlike, for example, daniel elsburg who allowed himself to be subjected to prosecution. while i think "the new york times" has been right, there's been some value in the public discussion and the revelations. that we will grant him clemency. wouldn't just be ridiculous to award snowden from being a fugitive from justice. it would encourage every other who thinks about spilling government -- >> that was the first reaction i had. what kind of a precedent do we set? now you're empowering everything who works in the intelligence field, the military, industrial complex. whatever you'd like to call it. if they perceive it as a constitutional violation, they can step forward, put everything on line. what of that
edward snowden shouldn't get clemency. he shouldn't because he went into a job intending to steal secrets. he promised, he signed a contract to keep those secrets. instead he stole them. he revealed them. after he did that or before he did that, he left the country instead of like i said sticking around to face the music. unlike, for example, daniel elsburg who allowed himself to be subjected to prosecution. while i think "the new york times" has been right, there's been some value in...
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snowden's vili indication and give him an incentive to return home. snowden has been living in russia for the last few months to avoid espionage charges. and the times think his should get some form of kleclemency. >> washington is full of people who broke the law by lying to congress, by engaging in illegal spying, by ordering the torture of prisoners. we haven't seen prosecutions of those officials and we haven't seen a lot of hand wringing about the precedent set by not prosecuting those people. let's not get on a high horse and say, oh dear, if we don't prosecute this person we're going to set a bad precedent. >> we'll talk with our cnn justice reporter correspondent evan perez in washington. "the new york times" powerful paper, editorial as well. clearly the white house is read what they say. they care about what they say. do you think it's going to make a difference in terms how the obama administratione pursues snowden? >> if you asked me this three, four months ago i would say it's not something anybody would think about seriously. it's true,
snowden's vili indication and give him an incentive to return home. snowden has been living in russia for the last few months to avoid espionage charges. and the times think his should get some form of kleclemency. >> washington is full of people who broke the law by lying to congress, by engaging in illegal spying, by ordering the torture of prisoners. we haven't seen prosecutions of those officials and we haven't seen a lot of hand wringing about the precedent set by not prosecuting...
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and what can they get from snowden. the russians, especially if you want to live in their country, they've probably already obtained what snowden has and the chinese in the brief stay in hong kong. there's no advantage to the government at this point. it's a terrible message. if you're a low-ranked intelligence officer and give one piece of information to the chinese or russians and you go to jail for a long time. if you give a lot to our add v ver-- i think the privacy debate will go on. there are probably fixes that are warranted and we don't necessarily need the same policies and laws that we had in the critical moments, days, weeks after 9/11, it may be time to reevaluate some of these programs, including the mass collection of phone records on nearly all americans who use cell phones or half of americans who use cell phones, but, you know, anything that smacks of clemency for super-spies which is what snowden is and the new york times, the journalist i would argue is more of a political warrior against the united s
and what can they get from snowden. the russians, especially if you want to live in their country, they've probably already obtained what snowden has and the chinese in the brief stay in hong kong. there's no advantage to the government at this point. it's a terrible message. if you're a low-ranked intelligence officer and give one piece of information to the chinese or russians and you go to jail for a long time. if you give a lot to our add v ver-- i think the privacy debate will go on. there...